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A NASA medical debriefing tape (Tape 12) from the 1969 Apollo 12 mission in which the three crew members describe seeing unexplained light flashes while trying to sleep in the dark.
NASA-UAP-D008, Apollo 12 Medical Debriefing - Tape 12, 1969
A NASA medical debriefing tape (Tape 12) from the 1969 Apollo 12 mission in which the three crew members describe seeing unexplained light flashes while trying to sleep in the dark.
This NASA file documents a post-mission medical debriefing of the Apollo 12 crew, Commander Charles "Pete" Conrad, Command Module Pilot Richard "Dick" F. Gordon, and Lunar Module Pilot Alan L. Bean, who each reported seeing light flashes or "streaks of lights" in the dark as they tried to sleep. The NASA medical team weighed whether the effect matched what Apollo 11 Lunar Module Pilot Buzz Aldrin had reported and whether it was caused by cosmic rays striking the retina. NASA later concluded the phenomena were internal to the astronauts' vision rather than external light sources. The record is image-only with no extractable source text, so no verbatim quotes are available.
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Listen, we read this paragraph in here about these quotes "coronal discharges" that you
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Listen, we read this paragraph in here about these quotes "coronal discharges" that you
guys were seeing and that completely stops us. Tell us how this came about and who talked
to you about and what you saw.
They recorded it on, or somebody recorded it on one of the earlier plays that some guy
have like a letter to his paper or somewhere and he gives it to the enemy in the case of
that two things, whether we hate that radio device which could be two charges for some
places to play. And the other one where I thought he was like, "You know what, you
don't like to stand there for it to be as planned as you want to face it, man. It's nice
with your eyes, folks. But no, you know, it wasn't your eyes. Thanks for having me.
They noticed that when they were away, they'd make the spacecraft look dark and they thought
they were in the spacecraft. But whoever this guy wants to know, that's a personally known
phenomenon. You can get this guy from the right, from gamma rays or something. So they
had it once you think, "Would we hold our eyes and face to move?" You know, what we
were orbiting is because it would be more, you'd get less discharges, faces to move
them away from them. But, you know, that's the main way to do the moon or anywhere. The
first night happening, and it gets, it gets, it gets, keep your eyes closed as you're
awake down there and it's dark and you think about it. But it happens to be a good drag
because you can sit down and it's one eye. It's the side of this drag, you can see it's
both eyes. You can really do it with one eye or the other eye. And you can see what point
it is. We had two times. I guess the part is, well, either it's right, the eyeball, perpendicular
or the interior is parallel. And we could either a flag like that or we'd get a streak.
And I knew the design of a baby on the bed or a tree. And I, for some reason, got a more
with my last eyes. And my right eyes. I could tell which eye it was. And I was not too quick
not to. I'm trying to tell the reason you did it because it, where he's left, was always
out of that size of a space dress. And I got a whip on the cross. They're not all the
light ones in my eyes. Yeah.
Hey, my client over at the back of the line, I slipped out of my eye. They should have protected
you, Dick. They should have all, they should have picked them all up.
I'm trying to say, I'm trying to say it's because we were asked to specifically experiment with
the other guys. I remember their conversation about it.
They thought it was something, you know, penetrating the spacecraft. Right. What piece is right is the
spacecraft that I'm at, all three of us don't feel the light. There's a flag out there.
Or sometimes it'd be up on the street. And I saw them in both eyes either. I, I can't remember.
It was one of the more predominant getting at it. But I agree with you, the problem is
you're not seeing them in both eyes. It's not something external to you. There's something
that's in terms of getting them started.
I'm going to talk to you, Dick, why don't they know that?
Well, we've been looking for cosmic rays, you know, cosmic ray strikes and heavy, heavy particles,
heavy nuclei that go through. You know, we started a clear back in Mercury taking photographs
of the retina to see if you could see streaks across the retina stuff. We never could
find any in there. And so we stopped that up early in, well, by the end of the...
Your eye is, what, a fan of the dealer on your body? And if it's doing anything, you're never going to see it.
But if I can get a guy back earlier, I'm going to see it.
I'm going to get photographs of right after a sparkle with the body.
Well, probably what, what it's doing anyway, it's probably hitting just a single cell.
And yeah, that's all it have to do, particularly make this flesh. You know, you hit a single cell.
I saw one night, so I was looking at the MGC, a handrail, a couple bucks.
And one right right left, I don't know whether it went here, you know, right, very long on a handrail.
That's about that. That's this. And I just had to be looking at that.
And I'm just going to almost see him as well. That's your eye where you just lie there.
He's pulling your eyes. What if they don't want to be able to yell with my eye and he hasn't already seen it.
You just believe it. It hurts.
That's not the first night.
And I know that now they're, hey, I'm continuing to bring a lot of information.
They're going to want to be a hard guy. They've seen him and got plenty of information.
They've just been able to make him wake up a night and say, "Well, I think I'll be able to close your eyes on those things and come about one minute."
Let me ask you one more question about heart. Oh, here.
Where's the random distribution of these two?
Okay. Were these things random?
Or did they all seem to be in one direction, like were they always horizontal or were they at random?
They could be at any kind of angle.
So the streets I saw were minus one, well, I saw a 4-1. I've got to say, that's just this thing, Mike.
It seemed to be, I had the impression that they were always roughly in the same place in mind where the horizontal streets were always, but if I knew where I was looking, it'd always be like a horizontal street with a little bit above the center.
And it always came to me and went from right to left, and I went right with it. The disc charges were more important than the center, and it would be different.
It was just like a pin point of light when they closed again.
Like somebody was flashing a light at you.
That's right. It was not too big a light at you.
It was a very small light. It was a good point.
That's about the same for both of you? Is that the same reaction you had, Dick, and Hal, the way he described it?
Yeah, I remember when he was about 30 degrees or so, I didn't know it was going from the right or left.
That's pretty impressive. They seem to appear about the same place.
They were generally opposed by those. It was generally fine. I don't know. I can't include any other. I can't remember.
I just don't remember the idea of being down on the floor as part of the stadium.
You see, Dick's telling you that this guy is open, and other things that he's centered on, the lights on the instrument panel.
I used to notice that the lights down there didn't leave a bag of a pitch black down there in the hole.
And either open up or fold them and wait if you're not there for a while, you can get one. And then I sit there for a while and say that there's a little left eye on the right.
I think you'll always sort it out. But when you're out, we're not able to do it.
Now you know what you do when you're supposed to be sleeping on it.
Yeah.
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